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Current situation in the Middle East: a strategic analysis
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And having looked at the Harry's Place website, it appears to be a gathering place for people to try and justify anything Israel does (particularly liked the bit where they try and justify bombing a UN outpost), so it's probably not the most objective place to get information on the anti-war movement.


i well cant be bothered with this any more cos im getting thoroughly sick of the whole thing as i think everyone is, but they didnt 'try and justify' that, and they asserted that israel was committing war crimes in a previous post, furthermore i am not saying that harrys plkace is the font of all flawless knowledge, its just an alternative source to take into accout, seeing as most of those you probably look at are biased in the OTHER direction, blah blah blah blah
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raaaww. Someone's got their claws out! My final word on the subject is this; Both sides are blowing people up, both sides are killing civillians. Now the reason that I have a go at Israel more than I do at Hizbullah (or Palestinian terror groups), is because frankly they are a state and should know better. There's no point having a go at all these terror groups and corrupt states and saying that they're bad and kill civilians when Israel (and the rest of the west) do exactly the same. We're supposed to be better than that, but we're not, Israel is not. Which is why i don't give them the benefit of the doubt, just because an army belongs to a democratically structured country, does not give more of a right to bomb the hell out of another country without some sort of international sanction (ie the UN). In fact being a democratic country in some ways gives it less of a right, with democracy, nation status and international recognition come responsibilities.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither side are right, neither side is willing to do a whole lot about it. I think thats all that needs to be said on the matter.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that the Israeli Prime Minister has said that Hezbollah is now been entirely destroyed. So if this is the case why not stop, instead of carrying on like they are doing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5237620.stm
I mean if they really have been destroyed then surely tis mission accomplished. And if it hasn't (as the subsequent hezbollah rocket attacks would suggest) why say it in the first place? You'll never completely destroy something like hezbollah if I'm honest anyway, they'll just fade into the undergrowth, be even more agrresive and harder to deal with.

I also read the other day that Prime Minister Teflon Tony may be advocating the intergration of Hezbollah into the Lebanese Army, what the f**k??? Does he really think the Israelis will agree to that? Someone's living in cloud cuckoo land, and if they would, then that just makes them a massive load of hypocrites, did they not start this to destroy Hezbollah?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Mr Blairīs so called climbdown speech yesterday (although if asked he would still not say that invading Iraq or Afghanistan was a mistake or that Israel should stop blowing up quite so many children) he said that:

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Syria and Iran that there is a choice: come in to the international community and play by the same rules as the rest of us; or be confronted. Their support of terrorism, their deliberate export of instability, their desire to see wrecked the democratic prospect in Iraq, is utterly unjustifiable, dangerous and wrong


What fucking rules do Britain and America play by? What fucking rules does Israel play by? I really should stop being surprised at the arrogant twaddle that this guy comes out with but I canīt help myself.

The full speech is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5236896.stm but I donīt advise reading it if youīre feeling at all unwell as it might tip you over the edge.[i]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blair's speech was hardly a climbdown if we're honest. One thing did cheer me up though, that reports suggest that nearly the entire labour party is unhappy at his actions and the government's support for Israel Pity they wont do anything about it!
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