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| Enlightened_Bystander Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| francesn wrote: | | naivehottie wrote: |
As for constitution committee, I'm always skeptical of the democracy of a group chaired by Gary, but would hope you can make sure it's done properly |
True it's chaired by Gary but 99% of the time that means we don't get anything done as the chair and certain other members spend the whole time arguing. It's very effective.
And as for criticising GC for approving a blank report - where were you? |
TBH, If I recall Josh was one of the people who voted against approving that report. _________________ Peter Lloyd
MEng Software Engineering, 4th Year
CS Guild Councillor 2005-2007
Independent Chair May-July 2007
Wargames Chair 2004-06
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| Oktober Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| If I recall, it was josh that pointed out that the report was totally blank in guild council and then 20 seconds later, almost everyone voted to approve it anyway. |
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| Pushy Penguin Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hey sid... Want to get anything off your chest about your experiences this year? _________________ "If you wrap the Internet around every person on the planet and spin the planet, software flows in the network."
Ebin Moglen's Metaphorical Corollary to Faraday's Law |
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| JulienP Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Oh dear, lets open another can of worms while we're at it! After Vale Fest why don't we ask Nick as well while we're at it  _________________ Big Brother is watching YOU! |
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| Oktober Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I did consider putting a few things in my report, but I've decided to keep my head down for a bit. At least until after non-sabb life memberships go thru... |
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| JulienP Black Bloc
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Typical exec member, feathering his own nest....  _________________ Big Brother is watching YOU! |
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| Oktober Black Bloc
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm, I've just given myself an idea... |
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| Teapotboy Black Bloc
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| JulienP wrote: | OAfter Vale Fest why don't we ask Nick as well while we're at it  | Exec (not) at Vale Fest disgusted me. And I have a strong stomach |
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| Sazzle Black Bloc
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Teapotboy wrote: | | JulienP wrote: | OAfter Vale Fest why don't we ask Nick as well while we're at it  | Exec (not) at Vale Fest disgusted me. And I have a strong stomach |
Here's a novel idea - maybe the exec were working or maybe they didnt want to attend an event out of hours?
I think its harsh to criticise they work for practically nothing and work long hours - give them a break once in a while ) |
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| naivehottie Black Bloc
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Re: My exec report in full |
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| naivehottie wrote: |
Also despite a motion that I seconded passing earlier in the year to ensure that all WMANUS delegates should be elected by Guild Council, our dictator president decided to choose who he wanted instead
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Anyone else not buy Gary's excuse here. Convenient that Richard Charlton, who Gary doesn't like, just happened to not get contacted to ask if he wanted to go to conference, when he actually did want to go, so Gary replaced him with someone.
Have to also add I was disappointed to see an 'Independent' Chair use his position as a political platform by wearing Labour badges and colours, but I do respect him being able to chair an 8 hour meeting |
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| tomsk Indymedia Hound
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: My exec report in full |
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| Hang on a minute, the independent chair was not wearing Labour badges. He was wearing a Jon Cruddas badge and sticker, not "vote labour" or anything of the sort, just so people don't get too upset. Surely we can accept that out independent chairs have interests that are not centred around guild council? |
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| naivehottie Black Bloc
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah, I just don't think they should be on display, while chairing Guild Council, normally I'd say it's fine |
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| PeterM Street Demonstrator
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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o for f**k sake.
Indi chairs are supposed to be independent of the executive, not politics. So what if Tom supports Cruddas (who imo is a total disgrace of a Labour party member, cruddas, not Hyner)? What possible bias could supporting John Cruddas have on the meeting, or Tom’s ability to stay independent. |
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| naivehottie Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Independent means a lot of things. Having political affiliations elsewhere isn't necessarily a problem but they should be conmpletely separated from your role.
Funny that it's only Labour students defending the action and the vast majority of non-Labour supporters were similarly unimpressed. It might not be against the bye-laws but it is completely and utterly against the spirit of the role of Independent Chair |
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| Enlightened_Bystander Black Bloc
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| naivehottie wrote: | Independent means a lot of things. Having political affiliations elsewhere isn't necessarily a problem but they should be conmpletely separated from your role.
Funny that it's only Labour students defending the action and the vast majority of non-Labour supporters were similarly unimpressed. It might not be against the bye-laws but it is completely and utterly against the spirit of the role of Independent Chair |
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Philosophy
The Independent Chairpersons shall represent Guild Council to all committees on which they sit. The Independent Chairpersons shall ensure that the Guild is administered as laid down by the Constitution, Bye-laws and policy at all times. As such they shall be given access to all information they require in the carrying out of their work.
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I'm sorry James, but what in there means that supporting Cruddas is a bad thing? _________________ Peter Lloyd
MEng Software Engineering, 4th Year
CS Guild Councillor 2005-2007
Independent Chair May-July 2007
Wargames Chair 2004-06
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