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| Oktober
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 Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: Atheist Society |
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Hey everyone, I'd just like to announce that there is currently an Atheist Society being set up. Lots of people (including me on many occasions ever since freshers week) have commented that there ought to be an Atheist Society, well now one is finaly being set up and hopefully will be a big success. The aim at the moment is to get it recognised in time for freshers next year.
The official Email is AtheistSoc @ hotmail.com if you want to get in touch or add your name to the list so it can get recognised or you can send a PM to me.
Hopefully once exams are over, we will organise it's frst meeting and write a constitution.
If anyone has any ideas for the aims on the constitution or any ideas for events or other activitys and stuff then please share. |
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| Teapotboy
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What are you going to do? Meet in Committee Room 5 and talk about how you don't belive in any god? Sounds like fun  |
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| Oktober
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| Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we already have interest from some staff who I plan to rope into speaking, there some lectuers at this uni that could give very interesting talks and host some good debates and there's definatly plenty of things to campain against with this nutty government in power and theres films showings and of course socials.
And that just what I can think up right now, there are already Atheist societys at other universitys around the country and they have pretty full schedules of events. |
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| gorky
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Atheist Soc is a terribly dull name. I prefer The League of the Militant Godless.
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| SarcasmStealthSquad
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What are you going to do? Meet in Committee Room 5 and talk about how you don't belive in any god? |
Because the only thing all other religious groups do is talk about god.
Definately no provision for socialising between like minded individuals, fund raising or events. |
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| Oktober
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| gorky wrote: | | Atheist Soc is a terribly dull name. I prefer The League of the Militant Godless. |
The plan is to shorten it to A-Soc, in homage to the A-Team, we will be outlaws fighting for justice and stuff and we be really bad ass.
I already have 146 gold chains ordered for whoever want to be Mr T. |
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| gorky
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Oktober"] | gorky wrote: |
The plan is to shorten it to A-Soc, in homage to the A-Team, we will be outlaws fighting for justice and stuff and we be really bad ass.
I already have 146 gold chains ordered for whoever want to be Mr T. |
But what will we do? Go round Selly Oak on Sunday knocking on doors and asking: "Have you heard the bad news?"
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| Teapotboy
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| SarcasmStealthSquad wrote: | | Quote: | | What are you going to do? Meet in Committee Room 5 and talk about how you don't belive in any god? |
Because the only thing all other religious groups do is talk about god.
Definately no provision for socialising between like minded individuals, fund raising or events. |
That's my point, presumably the only thing you will have in common is "oh, I have no faith", you can't really turn that into a discussion can you? When other religious groups get together, they are enjoying sharing their faith together, I don't get why anyone would want to do that about their lack of belief. |
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| higuy
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Although I am the first to promote debate on campus I find it hard to imagine what the Atheist society would do. Unless DebSoc would organise debates, which lets face it have been carried out on this forum enough times before and are always messy and inconclusive. Other religous groups engange in social, ecumenical and faith based activities; my question is what instead is A-Soc gonna do? |
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| gorky
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| higuy wrote: | | Although I am the first to promote debate on campus I find it hard to imagine what the Atheist society would do. Unless DebSoc would organise debates, which lets face it have been carried out on this forum enough times before and are always messy and inconclusive. Other religous groups engange in social, ecumenical and faith based activities; my question is what instead is A-Soc gonna do? |
Why do debates have to be organised through Debate Society? It's not hard to run a debate, no special skills are required.
I would like to see Atheist Soc carrying out the following activities:
1. Bringing prominent atheist speakers to the university to talk about their Godlessness.
2. Providing social activities to meet your fellow atheists.
3. Producing anti-religious propaganda.
4. Acting as watchdog for the religious socieities and religious organisations outside the uni, a small example, Gideons Bibles come as standard in Halls. Why should we have Christian tracts imposed on us?
5. Providing a forum to discuss Godless belief systems, e.g. the thought of Marx, Russell, Nietzsche, Sartre and so on
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| Teapotboy
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| gorky wrote: | Why do debates have to be organised through Debate Society? It's not hard to run a debate, no special skills are required.
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I realise you may not be aware of this, but debates in the Guild have to be arranged through DebSoc, I'm sure other people can explain why better than me, but basically it's because they have procedures in place to make sure balance is maintained and the chairs are independent, which wouldn't necessarily happen if student groups started running their own debates on, for a completely spurious example, "Paintball isn't a proper sport" being run by some AU club. |
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| gorky
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Teapotboy wrote: | | I realise you may not be aware of this, but debates in the Guild have to be arranged through DebSoc, I'm sure other people can explain why better than me, but basically it's because they have procedures in place to make sure balance is maintained and the chairs are independent, which wouldn't necessarily happen if student groups started running their own debates on, for a completely spurious example, "Paintball isn't a proper sport" being run by some AU club. |
Laughable. Debate Society chairs are no more independent than anyone else. I've seen debates take place in the Guild without their intervention, perhaps this should be reported to the Thought Police.
Chairing and its "procedures" are not mystical arts that require special training.
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| Drinky
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| I seem to remember an Israel-Palestine debate in the Guild way back in Autumn 2003 that was chaired by someone from I-Soc who was clearly partial, was that what inspired the rule or was that an anomaly? |
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| theanonymousgeographer
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I guess they could debate about what they think controls the universe. Individuals within Christian groups don't believe the same thing so why should atheists?
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| SarcasmStealthSquad
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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That's my point, presumably the only thing you will have in common is "oh, I have no faith", you can't really turn that into a discussion can you? When other religious groups get together, they are enjoying sharing their faith together, I don't get why anyone would want to do that about their lack of belief. |
I consider that to be a quite narrow minded view of atheism. Atheism isn't about having a lack of belief. It is about having a belief that there is not a god. There is quite a difference. |
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